Sharing Ideas On PhilNavs Finances from CebuNavs E-group: By the time, na-outlined na ilang action, patay na ang tabangonon!

B. Personal Knowledge of the Navs

10. My knowledge of the PhilNavs is based on the time (you can select more than1)
	a. When Foreign missionaries were leading	11	44.0%
	b. When Kuya Philip was leading	17	68.0%
	c. When Kuya Rely was Leading	5	20.0%
	d. When Kuya Wency was leading	8	32.0%
	e. The present NLT are leading (Kuya Eseng, Bobot, Danny,Soc)	5	20.0%
	Votes so far	25	100.0%

Friday, April 3, 2009

By the time, na-outlined na ilang action, patay na ang tabangonon!

Hi Oxy and All,

I can see why you used "alias" kay there's a risk in everything man gyod for us to be misinterpreted or misunderstood, no matter how valid our points are. And oftentimes, being blunt is the best way to go so that your message will make a hit.

I buy your points esp in this latest email. Pls. take note: those who worked hard for the survey, I appreciate your work.

Here's my side of the story. When we were discussing and planning to present our issues thru a survey result, ako dayong comment, "Nah, magsurvey pa sila." Don't get me wrong, I participated in the survey and even gave comments on the voice out box. But why did I say this? What came to my mind man gud is a favorite scenario among gov't employees ( I was once a gov't. employee) nga naa na'y masakiton nangayo ug tabang, ang action nila nag-meeting and series of meetings. By the time, na-outlined na ilang action, patay na ang tabangonon! I may be exaggerating, but there's some good analogy if we do this in a Christian community. In addition pud sa kang Oxy, remember the story about a man who threw back the starfishes to the ocean?

Now, considering the scenario of the survey results and in addition to what Oxy presented, what if only the 3 of us (Ai,Au & myself kay kami ra man pud ni verbalize) felt strongly for the personal connection bet. the donors (actually the Navs themselves call them ministry partners) and the staff, what will happen to our concern?

I hope the Navs leadership will give a thorough consideration for all the issues presented, that is regardless of the statistical results, as long as the issues are valid and would help build the community and the kingdom. Kumbaga, treat the survey as an indication of what should be done, whether it has a significant representation or not.

Again, I appreciate those who participated in the survey. To the framers of the survey, you were also doing what you think is best. Let me borrow Pres. Obama's statement,"Let the perfect not be the enemy of the essential."

Thank you also Oxy for calling our attention to the essential. Pero mora'g insakto gyod kos akong tagna bahin nimo, he,he,he!

Lani Gador-Johnson

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B. Personal Knowledge of the Navs

10. The result showed that the personal knowledge of these alumni are coming from the time of different leadership. Majority of them are from the time of Kuya Philip and only 20% is coming from our new NLT. I will interpret this as lots of work for the NLT to communicate what the Navs is doing now, starting from the vision and mission to the actual work in the ground if we want these alumni to be partners.

11. Alumni were asked about their knowledge (at least 60%) on some areas :

a. 60% knows the relationship of the PhilNav with international Navs 40% do not, this is ok in my personal opinion.

b. 48% do not understand our organizational structure, not bad.

c. 72% do not understand the functions and activities of the Nav office, to me this is very sad.

d. 40% do not know the present mission /vision of the Navs and how it is carried out. I think there is a big room for improvement on this.The plan of the NLT to go around the different ministry areas will help a lot.

e. 52% do not know where the present ministry areas are, so there are many things we need to communicate.

f. 36% do not know our ministry target.

g. 52% do not know what is happening in at least 1 ministry area.

h. 52% do not know how we handle the ministry, how we handle our workers or program, if we are not into program then do we communicate?

i. 48% do not know of any project/program of the Navs. Yes, most of our work is not a program.

j. Good that only 28% of them do not know the staff.

k. An amazing 80% do not know the different kinds of staff we have and what do we expect from each classification.

l. 80% of them do not know how we recruit and handle our staff.

m. 72% do not know what is the plan of the Navs for their alumni, this is sad.

o. 80% do not know the financial status of the Navs. Do we intend to keep it this this way?

I think we have so many things to communicate to our alumni before we expect them to be our partners. This is not just a matter of approaching for support, based on the exchanges of emails in Cebu Navs. Our alumni wants a meaningful involvement in the Nav ministry.

12. The next two questions are important to listen to, because these are about the perceptions of the respondents of the Navs as organization. They answered with at least 70% level of confidence. Their answers may not be true but this is the way they perceived the Navs.
a. It is very good to know that almost 90% believed that the Navs is still playing a unique role in the Kingdom.
b. It is sad though that almost 40% perceived that we are not clear on our vision.
c. Almost 65% percent do not believed that we have an effective organizational structure. In the first place, they do not know about our structure.
d. More than 60% do not see that the leadership has stirred up the organization towards it vision.
e. Almost 60% felt that Navs is not doing the ministry according to the vision, ahh this is sad.
f. Can you imagine that 65% of the respondents are not confident that we are doing the ministry correctly?
g. Also 65% can not confidently say that the Navs is concern about the staff. I know that this is not true in my case (I do not know with others) but is this because of the way the staff project themselves with the alumni?
h. Almost 70% can not say confidently that the Navs is not run professionally.
i. More than 50% can not confidently say that the Nav staffs have a healthy relationship among themselves, this is sad again.
j. 48% percent can not confidently say (at 70% level) that Navs is run with integrity, again this is a sad perception.
k. More than 60% can not confidently say that PhilNavs is not concern with its alumni.
m. More than 90% perceived that the Navs lacks funds.

13. The next set of perception by the respondents is on the staff.

a. More than 90% believed that most of the staffs are called by God, this is great!!!

b. But sadly about 44% of the staffs are not gripped with the vision according to their perception.

c. They do not even feel that the staffs are united in pursuing the vision (more than 50%)

d. Almost 80% said that the staffs sincerely love the people and the ministry.

e. Consistent with the previous question, 50% do not believed that the staffs have good interpersonal relationships. This is a sad picture of people who would like would like to encourage others to pursue a loving community.

f. There are 13% who believed that some of the staffs are on staff because they can not find a job.

g. The same number of people said that the staffs are doing the ministry out of duty.

h. Less than 10% believed that the staffs are not working hard enough.

i. There are also few staffs who have relegated the ministry work to students, according to a some respondents.

j. This a pincher when few of the alumni perceived that there are staffs who luck integrity.

k. also few thinks that the staffs lack professionalism.

l. 65% percent perceived our staffs as good examples of character and faith.

m. funny that there is 1 who said that some staffs do not know what they are doing.

Again these are just perceptions from the respondents. What will be our reaction to these? Personally, I would say that we do not have to defend. If some of them are true, let us do what needs to be done. Let's come to our alumni, let us present God's agenda for us and tell them that they have a Role to play in this agenda. Let us invite them to join us in pursuing what God wanted us to do as organization. It needs a lot of communication if we want our alumni to partner with us.

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11. As far as the Phil. Navigators as an organization is concerned I am aware of (means I know at least 60% .multiple choices allowed)
	a. The relationship it has with the International Navs HQ and other Navs worldwide	15	60.0%
	b. The organizational structure	13	52.0%
	c. The offices and its functions/activities	7	28.0%
	d. The present vision/missions and goals and how it is carried out	15	60.0%
	e. The present ministry areas	12	48.0%
	f. The present ministry targets (students, professionals, etc.)	16	64.0%
	g. What is happening at least in one ministry area	12	48.0%
	h. How do they handle the ministry (methods, workers, programs)	12	48.0%
	i Some projects/programs of the Navs	13	52.0%
	j Some staffs	18	72.0%
	i Classification of staff and expectations from each classification.	5	20.0%
	j How they recruit and handle the staff (recruitment, development, termination)	5	20.0%
	k The plans/desire for its alumni	7	28.0%
	l The Financial status	5	20.0%
	m. I need to add on the choices and explain more (Please write your explanation on the voice out box.)	0	0.0%
	Votes so far	25	100.0%

12 My perception of the PhilNavs (do not check if at least you don’t perceive it at 70% level, you can have multiple answers)
	a. I feel that Navigators is still playing a unique role in the Kingdom.	23	88.5%
	b. I feel that Navigators as organization is clear on its vision.	16	61.5%
	c. I feel that the Navs has an effective organizational structure.	9	34.6%
	d. I feel that the leadership is able to stir the organization towards the vision.	10	38.5%
	e. I feel that the PhilNavs is doing its ministry according to its vision (doing the right thing)	11	42.3%
	f. I feel that the PhilNavs is doing the ministry correctly. (right method)	9	34.6%
	g. I feel that the PhilNavs is concern about their staff.	9	34.6%
	h. I feel that the PhilNavs is run professionally.	8	30.8%
	i I feel that the PhilNavs has a healthy relationship.	11	42.3%
	j I feel that PhilNavs is running with integrity.	14	53.8%
	k. I feel that the PhilNavs is concern with its alumni.	10	38.5%
	l I feel that PhilNavs is adequately funded.	2	7.7%
	m I have more perceptions, I want to explain (Use the voice out box)	2	7.7%
	Votes so far	26	100.0%

13. My perception of the Navstaff. (the word “most” is near 80% level and “some” is near 20% level, you can have multiple answers)
	a. I feel that most of them are really called by God.	21	91.3%
	b. I feel that most of them are gripped with the a vision.	13	56.5%
	c. I fell that the staff are united in pursuing the vision..	11	47.8%
	d. I feel that most of them sincerely love people and the ministry.	18	78.3%
	e. I feel that most of the staff have good interpersonal and working relationships	11	47.8%
	f. I feel that some are in the staff because they have little chance of finding a job.	3	13.0%
	g. I feel that some are doing the ministry/loving people because they are staff (out of duty)	3	13.0%
	h. I feel that some are NOT working hard enough.	2	8.7%
	i. I feel that some staff have relegated the ministry work to the volunteer student leaders	3	13.0%
	j. I feel that some lack integrity.	2	8.7%
	k. I feel that some lack professionalism.	3	13.0%
	l. I feel that most of them are good example of character and faith.	15	65.2%
	m. I feel that some of them do not understand what they are doing.	1	4.3%
	o I feel that some are living luxuriously, have high living standard.	0	0.0%
	p. I feel that some enjoy being a staff because they are more relax	0	0.0%
	q I feel that some staffs are manipulative.	2	8.7%
	r I feel that some staffs relate to me because of financial support.	0	0.0%
	s I have more perceptions of the staff, I want to explain. (Use the voice out box)	1	4.3%
	Votes so far	23	100.0%

I. Profile of the Respondents in relation to Navs.
	A. Nav Involvement
		1. How long have you been involved with the Navs
		2 At what stage of your life were you contacted by the Navs
		3 Who introduced you to the Navs
		4. What Nav activities were you involved in (multiple answers allowed)
		5. I describe my involvement (giving or/and actual ministry) with the Navs as
		6. Did anyone of the Phil Nav staff, Nav contact or Nav alumni communicate to you when you went somewhere ?
		7. My present connection with the Navs is mainly because
		8 How do you rate your present ministry involvement with the PhilNavs in terms of support and/or actual ministry work.
		9 With your past and present involvement with the Navs, do you consider yourself as a Navigator?
	B Personal Knowledge of the Navs
		10. My knowledge of the PhilNavs is based on the time (you can select more than1)
		11. As far as the Phil. Navigators as an organization is concerned I am aware of (means I know at least 60% .multiple choices allowed)
		12 My perception of the PhilNavs (do not check if at least you don’t perceive it at 70% level, you can have multiple answers)
		13. My perception of the Navstaff. (the word “most” is near 80% level and “some” is near 20% level, you can have multiple answers)
II Giving and Financial Support
	A. Personal Conviction on Giving
		14. For me, giving is (multiple answers allowed)
		15. I consider the money I give to the following as part of my giving (multiple answers allowed)
	B. My personal conviction on giving to the Navs.
		16 My giving or not giving to the Navs is generally affected by:
		17 I do not give to the Navs because (multiple answer allowed) OR Im giving now but if I stop giving NOW to the Navs the possible reason would be;
		18 I give to the Navs because (multiple aswers allowed)
		19 My Present giving or my plan of giving to the Navs is (multiple answers allowed)
		20 As a donor or someone who is considering to give to the Navs , how I wish (multiple answer allowed)

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